was with clinton -- debate a lot in primaries. this is the guy that showed up. he is a good debater, but doesn't enjoy it. you look through this debate, ann romney looked like he enjoyed it and was having fun. obama just looked sort of sour and it was like another headache that he had to be there. romney support is needed to be reinvigorated. the question is, what did happen with the undecideds. is that enthusiasm going to spread out in terms of who is going to vote. >> was their body language that you noticed? >> i thought both of them behaved with considerable dignity and courtesy to each other, which people like. as meaghan pointed out, the president was continually looking down and sometimes had an expression on his face that seemed like a smirk. that never helps you. i thought governor romney's body language was pretty good, and the expression on his face this kind of a half smile, not a smirk, as he was looking at the president while he spoke. it was probably better than having him looking down. those observations on body language. >> both of the campaign spending a lot of time in ohio.